Can't actually see the point of Hip-hop since it hasn't substantially changed since the early '80s.
Personally was a BIG fan of Joy Division and the Buzzcocks, but if all white subcultural music since then still sounded like Closer and Love Bites then I would politely advise white subcultural music to pack up and go home.
Which is what black American music needs to do now.
Can it REALLY be true that black America produced Motown, Stax, Atlantic...? Hard to believe from the formulaic and brutish noise I hear from the (fifth!!) generation of hip-hop that the record companies blare to us from every 18-year-old in a motor that passes on the street.
Each to their own. And my own opinion is that 21st century black American music is crap and a deep disgrace to a fantastic tradition.
It's addictive tho', I'll grant. Which is why the most moronic and ill-cultured in our society so love to pump it into their veins. God help those suckers.
What on earth happened to black American music?

In Punk
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